I understand, but on a large public forum like HN, generic internet dynamics unfortunately take precedence over all of that. Discussions turn ugly and boring under such provocation, and the only thing that works is to just avoid it.
They had the death penalty for using the royalty's name in vein until the 90s or so, jailing someone because he was drunk and made a "death threat" (with zero likelihood of it being real) on Facebook, arresting someone for camping alone without a mask, CCTV everywhere, being illegal to raise the middle finger, etc. And yes, then once tech is involved it is accordingly used as stupidly. The UK somehow has a whole different brand of legal stupidity than America.