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I am amazed at projects that allow toxic people to disrupt and mistreat other project members. I'm amazed when people defend bullies because they've got some kind of oldschool hacker credibility.

Not having to listen to "a hacker with a deservedly excellent reputation" say he'd like to cut off your hands so you can't code any more is absolutely not a loss to the project. It's a proper and right kind of excision to remove toxic bullies like that no matter how correct was the substance of their report.

(And as it turns out, the overwhelming majority of his reports were duplicates of existing reports, so it's not even a loss of the actual bug reports, just the nasty name calling and abusive and threatening behavior. I call that a win for the project.)



" I'm amazed when people defend bullies because they've got some kind of oldschool hacker credibility."

I actually said nothing like this, did I?

What I actually said, a) he's has a reputation as a very smart individual, and for good reason, and b) his bug report specifically was not bullying at all, but was precise, accurate, and passionate.

For what it's worth though, I don't find his calling a developer to be a simian to be offensive, I find it funny. I don't find his imagery of reaching through a monitor to cut off the fingers of someone to be offensive, or threatening, I find it amusing, and illustrative of his frustration at being ignored once more.

I find your behavior in this forum, of repeatedly bringing up these lame examples of why he should be banned to be offensive. And more offensive in light of how you have not explained who you are.

But the truth is, I use Chrome. And when I need an alternative browser, I turn to Opera or IE. I rarely use Firefox products anymore, because they are horrible. And I understand why they are horrible, it's because you guys are off in your own world and have no time or need to actually listen to your users, us guys that have been telling you for years of your bloat and your feature creep and your memory problems, and all the other crap you've tossed in there.


There is a decided difference between emotion and reason. Frustration is an expression of emotion and has no place in a bug report.

A bug report should factually describe a problem and the steps a dev can take to reproduce them.

Your frustration is a symptom of your own unmet expectations. The problem with _any_ expectation is that (being constant) it is bound to be unmet, eventually, given that the world is in a state of continuous change. So you can either lose your cool, or understand that this is the nature of the world, adapt and move on.

The title of this post has "click bait" plastered all over it, and that single post takes the whole thing out of context. I'm sorry I fell for it.

Google _all_ his bug reports and understand in the context.


I agree with you that the title of this post is click bait, however, this statement:

" Frustration is an expression of emotion and has no place in a bug report."

Again, you're right, and again, you're wrong. Now we need moderators and rules and timeouts and bannination and more rules on how what as developers expect from bug reports?

It's hard enough for users to make bug reports.

What I want from bug reports is accuracy, precision, specification, and oh my god, a reproducible test case.

If after registering for a bug account, after taking the time to create a reproducible test case, after taking the time to enter that in my reporting system, if they want to call me a simian -- I'm okay with that.


I'm not sure how the effort required by a user to file a bug report entitles him to use that system in a way not intended by the system itself. Effort != entitlement.

I'm not suggesting rules/moderation/banning, but a little private introspection by individuals before they act.




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