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... in the US, period. (Nota bene for old asymmetric standards used in other countries, and 5G is still asymmetrical unless there's a street-by-street deployment due to conservation of physics).


I'm in Finland and it's the same here.

A friend who basically was freelance and did tons of self-hosted IT shit for years, has given up and is now doing contract work in fucking Photoshop, because you can't practically run own hardware services anymore.

It's a joke, and it upsets me that it all seems to just have happened quietly under everyone's nose, and no one seems to be worried about it at all.


Not related to the discussion, but I need to say I didn’t know I could use NB (i.e., “nota bene”) in an English conversation. Thanks


Only if you spell it out. I've never seen it abbreviated in English, but I have seen it spelled out.

I only wish people knew what "e.g." meant -- "exampli gratia" or "free example". Folks on HN frequently use e.g. when they mean i.e. or "id est" or "that is". When you know the Latin, it rankles you every time.

However despite Latin, "data" is stuff just like "hair" in standard English. "The hair _is_ on the floor", not "The hair _are_ on the floor." And thus "the data is collected", not "the data _are_ collected". English isn't a slave to Latin, but some misuses are too egregious to be tolerated.


> I only wish people knew what "e.g." meant -- "exampli gratia" or "free example". Folks on HN frequently use e.g. when they mean i.e. or "id est" or "that is". When you know the Latin, it rankles you every time.

Just like you, I substitute "e.g." whenever I want to use "for example", and "i.e." for "that is".

I find the difference quite straightforward once I "get it".


Just as a side anec-note, I’ve seen “NB” far more frequently than _nota bene_ (in fact this thread may be one of the only times ever)


> Only if you spell it out. I've never seen it abbreviated in English, but I have seen it spelled out.

I've only ever seen it abbreviated. The only time I've seen it spelled out is when I looked up what it meant.


And USA is asymetric because housing is spread out. Same for Australia. But if services were locally-hosted, one wouldn’t need the big submarine cables to go back to USA.




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