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One Navy pilot insisted on Joe Rogan/Lex Fridman that UFOs would visit their carrier strike group day after day for weeks.

I always wondered why nobody thought about getting a few goddamn proper cameras out there in the fleet and on the planes so that we would finally have some quality high resolution pictures.

If I was a senior officer on one of those ships sailing near California, I would have hired 5 camera crews from Hollywood and called Elon Musk to lend me the team who is filming SpaceX launches, who are able to get clear pictures of a rocket screaming and many kilometers per second from tens of miles away.

If I was just a regular sailor, I would have gotten my hands on a DSLR with a good zoom lens and film it for eternal Internet and world fame. Imagine being the one who got the first clear shot of an UFO that you see every day for weeks.

Or maybe that pilot was just full of shit...



If anyone has the ability to get a clear image of a nearby vehicle or aircraft, a carrier strike group does.

E.g., https://www.ball.com/aerospace/Aerospace/media/Aerospace/Dow...


What does this have to do with the article? The edited headline mentions UFOs presumably for clickiness value, but the article is about interstellar comets that show acceleration properties we're not sure about, like Oumuamua did.

Though I can understand the confusion, given the misleading headline and they never explain what UAP stands for (so it could be a euphemism for UFO since I imagine "ufo research" is a good way to get your funding cut). I happen to have read a book on Oumuamua so coincidentally know that this isn't exactly UAF (yes at this point I'm parodying U* TLAs) fighter pilot related.


The article also says UAPs. UAPs include UFOs but not interstellar comets and such stuff. The A stands for Aerial. The title is not misleading UAP is what normal people name UFO. Its just more correct because some things visible in the sky are not not flying and or not an object. for example ball lightnings.


I assume you’re taking about Cmdr. Fravor?

When he was interviewed on Lex Friedman, he was asked why more was not done at the time to investigate.

His reply was along the lines that he and everyone else had plenty to do for their day job already. They were doing ‘work ups’ for a deployment and Cmdr. Fravor was at that time the youngest of that rank on that ship and perhaps in the navy. So it would be a large reputation as risk to stop a busy training schedule to investigate this.

He also said that if it had a Russian or Chinese flag, they would have no issue in re-assigning every resource available to investigate.


> If I was a senior officer on one of those ships sailing near California, I would have hired 5 camera crews from Hollywood and called Elon Musk to lend me the team who is filming SpaceX launches.

This was back in 2004, before Musk even had any money, before high resolution cell phone cameras were common, and when policy around sightings was basically "don't ask, don't tell". If you're going to dismiss eyewitness testimony, at least get the basic facts right.

Now that the official policy is changing, maybe we'll see better imaging.


PayPal IPO’d and was acquired by eBay in 2002. Presumably Musk had hundreds of millions by 2004.


A potential explanation I've recently heard is that, due to the impossibly fast, silent maneuvers made by UFOs, is that maybe they have Alcubierre drives - they don't move through space, they move space around themselves, enabling moves at any acceleration/speed without the ship experiencing the utterly brutal acceleration observed. This localized bending of spacetime would create gravitational lenses that obscure their true shape, so a "clear" picture is not possible unless one turned off their engine, in which case it would be in freefall, a clumsy move. The sharpest footage yet seems to be from CBP in Puerto Rico in 2013, you can see the footage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldV5LUsTkJM

The description on the video has a link to a page that goes into much more detail. Obviously the page gives similar vibes to any (other?) conspiracy theory page, but the explanation seems more consistent than any other I've heard.




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