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In other words:

> Can you educate a person who lacks the skills for what you need, but is willing to put lots of effort and determination?

But will that motivation remain once they're over the excitement of learning? You have no guarantees that by the time the Do-er is educated they will still be motivated.

> Can you motivate an educated person that has the skills for what you need to act on them with lots of effort and determination?

The implication of the tweet is that this is "harder", but I don't like the word "harder" here, what does it mean? That it will take longer? That it will require more effort on your part? That it is more likely to fail?

Alternatively, hire a motivated and educated person?

If someone is a motivated Do-er, why can't they motivate themselves to go through education? That also confuses me, you say you're motivated, but don't want to put the time and effort to learn?

Basically, I think this whole "Do-er" and "educated" dichotomy assumption is BS. I think it be more apt to talk about "passion" versus "just a job that pays my bills".

If you expect someone to go above and beyond on the job, without you motivating them to do so through actual benefits and compensation (like better pay, bonuses, etc.), you better make sure you found someone passionate enough about the task itself to be motivated to do so purely based on what the task is.




I think if you can get the optimum which is getting a motivated doer, go for it. But given the option between the two, go for the doer.


I don't know, honestly in my experience, some do-ers just couldn't cut it, some things are hard and you need people with the talent, not just the motivation. That's because I think some do-ers are also "shortcut takers", they tend to skip really putting in the work of deep understanding, and if your problem requires that, and they always try to skip that part, their efforts just won't provide ROI.

Meanwhile, a non-motivated educated person might just take longer as they're not putting as much effort on a daily basis, but they can still make progress.

But it depends on the task and the understanding required for it. Lots of task actually benefit from shortcuts, you don't need a major for most programming tasks, you don't even need any understanding of algos, data-structures, hardware, OS, distributed systems, math, etc. A lot of task you just need very simple knowledge of a framework and just put in the time to try a few things until it works, google the answers, etc.

So I'm assuming here by "do-er" we mean someone who doesn't bother learning anything unless the task at hand requires them too, and is also going to put constant effort and energy into the task on a daily basis. And this will always be more optimal in the total time spent learning/doing ratio, but if presented with a difficult task, you don't know if the do-er will be able to learn what's needed, because they have no cred that tells you that they are someone who can or can't learn such complicated things. That's where education comes in, you already know the person knows complicated stuff or was able to learn it.




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