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> I legitimately wonder how many people feel free from lock in after they finish paying $75k to Canonical for a 12 node OpenStack "private cloud build"

Here’s the part where it’s not lock-in. We stopped paying for support from Redhat when we got big enough that our own SRE expertise to run our own open stack cloud.

You know what the impact was on our applications running on it? Absolutely nothing.

How much do you pay Canonical to use grep every month? Inexperienced developers have just been conditioned by cloud providers to think that an IaaS platform must cost something in payments per month to some tech company. It does not.

This is no different than Windows vs Linux on servers. I can’t wait until 20 years from now when all of the proprietary shit looks ridiculous in hindsight.




> to think that an IaaS platform must cost something in payments per month to some tech company. It does not.

I agree fully! As you explained, it can cost several full time employees and their payrolls and their HR and their management!

Edit: And before someone misses the point, I'm not saying the math never makes sense for in-house, but to me the inexperienced take is thinking either approach should obsolete the other...


Sounds like you’re pushing a hybrid cloud approach in your edit. I have been consulting on this topic for 7 years and companies are still tied to their data center or the cloud and can’t readily pull their components apart because they originally built them so intertwined with the cloud environment of the time


Even if it doesn't cost you in monthly payments to a tech company it still costs you in "our own SRE expertise to run our own open stack cloud" so salaries, benefits, 401k contributions, etc.

> I can’t wait until 20 years from now when all of the proprietary shit looks ridiculous in hindsight.

I'd posit that in 20 years there will still be tech which is more efficiently managed by a central provider, rather than having each company hiring their own independent expertise.




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