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>That’s the biggest downside

Downside for whom?



Society? People who want their fellow citizens to work toward greater goods collectively?


I guess we don't believe in disruption of suboptimal establishment forces anymore on HN.


I think you are missing the point.

Yes, lying governments don't deserve to be trusted. It is still unfortunate that the damage done may be so severe that for some people it will be irreparable. This isn't an absolution of the establishment, or a condemnation of those who lost trust.

Increased barriers to developing better establishments in the future are still regrettable.




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