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If sex work is just like any other job, then many, if not most Western welfare societies demand that an unemployed person takes any job in their skill-set.

So you end up demanding women go back to the prostitution - because there is an opening at the local brothel next to the truck stop.

This isn't theoretical - it has happened more than once in Germany.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/no-job-no-excuse-for-turning-do...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/outrage-after...

So, no - its not normal work.



I'm not entirely sure I grasp what you're trying to demonstrate.

1. Yes, most Western societies demand that an unemployed person takes any job in their skill-set.

2. Yes, there are certainly openings at the local brothel.

3. With any luck, there are also openings for other jobs at the local supermarket, or as teachers, or as nannies, or working the fields, or cleaning cars, or coding, or...

=> Yes, some women (and I imagine some men) are going to end up sex workers. Others are going to become supermarket employees, teachers, nannies...

I don't quite connect this to your affirmation that "its not normal work."


> I don't quite connect this to your affirmation that "its not normal work."

Really? You cannot get there?

Ok: If its normal work, then you - like what happened twice in Germany in my OP - are going to have to deal at some point with the case of a broken, depressed, uneducated, abused woman with dependency issues, likely ostracised from her family, etc, etc. who is desperate to never go back to her prostitution job.

Since - according to you - is no different to other normal work, you will have no reason to not insist that she takes up the opening at the local brothel in the not unlikely scenario that there are not actually any other positions available as a nannie/teacher/astronaut for such a candidate.

Just this one job. At the brothel. Who wants a prostitute.

You have a prostitute. One the dole. Your job is to get people back to work.

Now - if like any sane, compassionate human - you find yourself reluctant to insist on this - all the while whilst forcing every other unemployed bus driver, plumber, surgeon, pilot off the dole and back to work, then you too will have concluded that this one occupation is not normal.

Corner cases are brutal.


So, if I understand correctly, your argument is that this specific job is a really, really bad match for some specific people (and more specifically for their physical and mental health), right?

If that's your argument, I'm pretty sure that I can find a few other jobs that are really, really bad matches for the physical and mental health of some people.

Now, I'm sure that I can find other arguments that go in your sense. If I had a daughter, I would probably not want her to become a sex worker, because I would be scared for her physical and mental health, in addition to the potential of ostracism. No idea how I would react about a son becoming a sex worker. But then, I would also not want my child to become a soldier or a cop for most of the same reasons, or a trucker or a miner, because I imagine that both jobs are also bad for physical and mental health, or any office job that would put them under the orders of an abusive boss, or a nurse in an underfunded hospital, or an Amazon warehouse worker, etc.

So, what I'm attempting to say is:

- we agree that it's very likely that low-end sex work is most likely a really bad place to be;

- we probably agree that there are lots of really bad jobs in the world;

- there are stigmata to sex work, including social pressure and the fact that low-end sex workers are basically not protected by the law;

- seen from a comfortable distance, and with the additional luxury of not being in a shitty job (anymore), my impression is that the biggest problem of sex work is not the sex but the stigmata and that these are pretty much artificial.


If you don't want your daughter to become a whore, then why are you wishing it upon others?

There is social stigma for prostitutes in pretty much every society. As the other poster's example shows, even in Germany where it is legal not many women want to perform an intimate sexual act on random strangers. Note that most prostitutes in Germany are foreign.

The empirical fact that there is universal social stigma implies that there is a psychobiological reason for it. A woman clearly understands that no high status man would want to marry a whore, which is why women use slut shaming against other women to make them less attractive as a mate to other males.


Is this really different than say vegetarian being demanded to take work in slaughterhouse?


Vegatarianism isn't a job when I last checked, so no - its not the same thing.




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