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One thing that is different in the preenfm2 compared to the Yamahas stuff is, that it uses linear FM and therefore will not do operator feedback.

The guy behind the preenfm2 says, that feedback is not that important, when you have a variety of waveforms for modulation. Linear FM also has the advantage of being a bit "friendlier/warmer" when using complex waveforms as modulators (Higher harmonics of the modulator will have a smaller effect than in phase modulation).

One thing you loose when not having feedback: The normal feedback happens after the amplification/envelope if I remember correctly Therefore the amount of feedback scales with the amplitude. With feedback you therefore get less harmonics and therefore a "softer" sound at lower amplitudes. This is quite useful, because it mirrors the behavior of most natural sound sources. It is the same idea as using a lowpass gate or using the same envelope for the amp and the filter in subtractive synthesis. Of course FM synths give you enough options to get this effect in another way. I still like the yamaha style feedback though....




I will say—my personal experience, in dissecting DX7 presets, is that feedback is not really used that much. If you are porting DX7 sounds to a different architecture, you can remove the feedback and replace it with something like a noise source, or another operator, much of the time, or even remove it altogether.

This is just my personal experience. I often dig through DX7 patches in order to reimplement them for demoscene projects.

Sounds like you’re getting good use out of the TX81Z. I have the TX802, which is on paper a better synth, but controlling it from a DAW is much more of a pain because the program change messages control the “performance”, rather than the patch. So it’s been exiled from my rack, at least for now.


I have the same problem with the TX802. I do my best to avoid the 'performance mode' features entirely.

Slightly related: I really love the build quality of Yamah's 80s/90s rack synths. The physical interfaces were very well-designed, and look amazing.


Agreed, and what's more: back then it wasn't all that apparent, the fact that they're still playing almost 40 years later is what proves it, most other gear - even very high end - from that era is long gone.


if you try to control the parameters on the TX81z while its receiving midi info, it starts to "skip" and the notes start to lag, lol.

I wish i had a TX802 or a fs1r yamaha. Those are so nice!




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