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> I wonder why it upsets you that someone would complain about this though, do you have a personal attachment to Nat?

Please point to where I implied I was at all upset.




That last sentence alone "if it's so bad why read it?" is clearly something an upset person would say.

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But this is HN where inferring tone is apparently a step too far in terms of speculation, so here.

Have an ML model tell you how upset you sound: https://i.imgur.com/nztQgdY.jpg


I have no dog in this race but it sounds like you're assuming that a sentence with a negative sentiment (whatever that actually means) must have been created by a person who's upset. A bit of a stretch, no?


A tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact HN users act like basic social skills like the ability to infer tone are voodoo gets dissected like this?

You can't make up this stuff up.

To the reply:

> would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise

You're close to getting it!

In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement.

Going "show me where I said I'm upset!!" instead of just clarifying is not acceptable in a social setting. Busting out an ML model is just holding up the mirror.

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> I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read.

I'm not responsible for teaching people how basic social interactions work, yet here we are...


> HN users act [lack] basic social skills

I believe using a sentiment analysis tool you googled for to back up an assumption you made about me and my character would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise. Just pointing this out. My original comment was made with an informative/inquisitive tone.

I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read.


You sound upset ;)

(sorry, couldn't help myself. I think you're all great simply for being here and applying your intellects!)


Of course you couldn't help yourself, I poopoo'd on your dog in the race and you couldn't think of something meaningful to reply with.

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And I am upset, I hate working in one of the few industries where people wear social ineptitude like a badge:

Like someone says something when they're clearly upset, you ask why they're upset, then suddenly they derail the conversation because

"how dare you imply I am some descendant of a caveman capable of being shudder upset"

Like holy shit, real people get upset! Wowie what a concept!

Dude was upset someone insulted his rockstar idol that everyone in SV knows and got called out.

I jokingly tell him even a computer can see he's upset and now there's literally another reply to me by this "peter" person picking a fight with the computer!

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Maybe you're all stuck in this weird passive aggressive bubble of timidity (maybe that's the "everyone") where you're not allowed to express emotion but I'm not going to coddle you, not here or in real life

This person was upset. They didn't need to present it as some passive aggressive "informative", like the guy they replied to didn't know they couldn't read it.

They're just not used to having to deal with emotions directly instead of being as biting as possible while seeming... "informative"


> In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement.

Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it.

Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to literally the most negative and upset-sounding post in this chain: the one that started it. What does your ML model think of "I'm gonna throw up on my keyboard"?


"You don't have the social skills to realize people can infer tone, so here let your fellow computer tell it to you"

third person shows up to pick a fight with the computer.

Never chance y'all.

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And for the record, if someone complains about a piece of writing, and you tell them "simply not to read it"

You are being a passive aggressive joke, and you are clearly upset with their critique.

People are allowed to dislike things, and gasp even hate things, you don't need to get all max passive aggression over that.

Not everyone lives in an echo chamber of timidity where all emotions must be moderate some of you put yourselves in.

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The person I replied to had no answer to the actual point I made, so they tried to derail the conversation to "how dare you claim I'm upset!" which was a complete aside in my comment as it was in theres.

Yet now I am talking to a guy who wants to argue with an ML model so I guess well played?


> I am talking to a guy who wants to argue with an ML model

Are you suggesting ML models are infallible? You might want to sit down before I tell you the news...


I physically cringed reading this.

My comment said something a social skill as simple as inferring tone is too far above you.

Now here you are, still trying argue about the ML model that was used to compare your social skills to that of a text analysis model.

Hint: It was never about the ML model.

Like at first it was funny, now it's just sad. It's too on the nose.




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