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Yes yes, never mind the pedestrians for whom crosswalks and walk indicators are mere suggestions, or the thousands of delivery guys going 30mph on e-bikes in every possible (different from legal!) direction of travel.

And while there are lots of wide, slow, neatly gridded streets, there are tons of streets that are none of those things.

NYC is certainly not the most chaotic, but it’s a billion times more so than Phoenix.




This is just east coast cities..

Something that astonished me when I moved to SF was how little people jaywalk here.


Correct! Functional cities have rampant jaywalking.


It's worse than that. Not only they don't jaywalk, they stand or wander randomly all over the sidewalk/corner, getting in the way of those who are trying to get somewhere.

Downtown SJ might be the winner, though. Even at noon, in broad daylight, you might not see a car for a quarter or half mile (SF is never that deserted), yet pedestrians wait for the walk signal. Craziness. At least they don't give jaywalkers the stare of disapproval you'd get in Japan.


Where are these wonderful wide streets, beyond the avenues and major cross-town streets? Most are a lane or less, especially with double-parking.




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