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> each request starts with an empty state

Strange place to post such a … misguided stance. HTMX regularly brags about how it’s meant to be used to mutate the DOM the user already has loaded, thru custom HTML attributes handled by their JS framework.

You’re just arguing in favor of HTML, but HTMX is trying to have their cake and eat it too. JS-level state is clearly easier to manage than DOM-level.



Well, using Hypermedia As The Engine of Application State doesn't seem too... outside the lines of the web.


Yes, a giant tree representing a view layer which blends data with presentation is clearly the canonical representation of app state...


Well, according to Roy Fielding...




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