Not bad in absolute terms, but even their NY/NJ offerings are half of what the top trading firms seem to offer, and middle of the pack for tech: https://www.levels.fyi/internships/
GS intern pay in Salt Lake City was like $33 or $35 an hour a few years ago. I can only imagine it’s higher now. No way the interns aren’t paid at a big bank - not in this day and age.
I interned with goldman in their 200 west office in lower Manhattan years ago. They pay, and paid well (still less than proper tech companies), and while no one I knew returned full time, the experience, prestige, and network of other young ambitious college peers was really one of those opportunities I look back on and acknowledge as one of my “luck” moments to get me to where I am today.
Granted, with my age I can proudly say, fuck the entire institution that is GS.
I'm interested to know why you didn't go back. Reading OPs article there are a lot of red flags that stand out to me today, but if I was young and fresh out of college, I'd probably be happy to take a job there.
U.S. companies can't legally hire interns for no pay (I believe there are some exceptions, but GS definitely wouldn't qualify). So it's probably best to avoid jumping to conclusions like this in the future.
GS interns and most finance interns do get paid and paid quite well compared to interns in basically any other industry (maybe tech interns get more? I doubt it though).
At first I thought you were saying they underpay tech and agreed, but then I read "for free".
I have never even seen or heard of an unpaid software engineering internship. Why are you assuming they're unpaid? Where are these unpaid SWE internships?
I've never come across unpaid internships in Fortune 100. They may even be paid higher in internship than the bottom end if software engineering full time jobs.
At every level when adjusted for local cost of living? No way. Intern/New Analyst jobs paid around half of what you’d get at full tech companies. If you stick with it for 2 years and then 5 years you can get very good bumps.
The cool thing about Goldman as an internship/first-post-uni job is that they provide the opportunity for a lot of very capable people whose resumes would be ignored for SWE roles in tech. And, while I don’t know what the current H1B situation is, banking tech has been a huge enabler for talent in markets like Ghana or Nigeria.
That was not the case 10+ years ago, especially at the entry level. Their entry level pay used to be lower because people did not mind accepting lower in exchange for the brand name on the resume.