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Actually, the comparison to early 2010s iPhones is quite apt...you have the staunch iPhone evangelist who pressures all their family and friends into getting one, the one who waits in the lines for product launches etc. And on the other end of the spectrum you have the Android or otherwise user who cannot possibly comprehend why a smartphone, especially one as [locked down / hard to repair / expensive / etc] would be a good purchase choice in anyone's eyes.

10 years later the iPhone is still around but its competitors have more or less died out or left the smartphone game. The only flagship Android manufacturers that compete at the same price points are Samsung and Google, and pretty much nobody else is making a smartphone that doesn't run Android.




yo, no offense, but how is this comparison even relevant, let alone apt? it made sense in the parent comment, but the way you’ve extended it seems to imply BMW went out of business or something. where are you going with this?

also, again no offense, but do you mean “pretty much nobody else is making a smartphone that doesn’t run Android”? because you started by talking about iPhones.

the first paragraph made sense, maybe you just need to clarify.


> where are you going with this?

Forgetting the brands, the battle right now seems to be between ICE cars versus EV cars. I'm implying that EVs will win in the end regardless of any existing drawbacks.

> do you mean “pretty much nobody else"

Yes, thanks for catching that. That omission does make my sentence rather confusing, lol. I was trying to refer to all the other manufacturers with proprietary operating systems like Blackberry, Palm, Windows Phone, etc. that are no longer around.


I think EV will replace ICE in the end too, but Tesla looks to me like the type of company that isn’t still around after the transition.


What iPhone feature has been as delayed and as dangerous as FSD? Apple gets their shit right.


How quickly we forget!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_%22-gate%22_scandals_a...

Antennagate, Batterygate, Bendgate, Chipgate, Flexgate, Locationgate, Staingate...

And sure, none of these are as dangerous as a self driving car making the wrong move, but we can separate the context of what a phone or laptop is supposed to be good at vs. a car. For example, this brake pad issue is the Tesla equivalent to Antennagate, since nobody would expect to buy a new phone that sucks at making calls, just like nobody would expect to buy a new car that sucks at slowing down.


I'm still waiting for some scandal at the Watergate Hotel again, to see how many journalists demonstrate their total and complete ignorance of the history of their profession by referring to "Watergategate."




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