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Because accepting the potential demise of modern complex society and the collapse of ecosystems and biodiversity world wide and a mass exctinction event because "Fuck it China and India are bad so lets just party until the end." Is fucking stupid.

The proper framing is we need to reduce emissions and so does China and India so how do we facilitate that. The answer is to 1.) Reduce our own emissions to have the moral basis to push other countries to reduce their emissions. 2.) Tax imported goods based on the emissions created in their production. Incentivizing foreign countries to reduce their emissions to be competitive in US markets. 3.) Lobby other countries to do the same using the diplomatic means we have at our disposal.



Sure we “need to do that” but you know it won’t ever happen right?

Scientists have already said if we stop all emissions tomorrow, across the globe, we’re still hitting catastrophic climate change.

The boat to fix this left decades ago.


That's complete bullshit. Global warming isnt a binary of either we're fucked or we're not fucked. It's a gradient of more fucked the look get we wait to phase out emissions. It's never too late because it can always be Made worse by continuing to emit more.


It's funny how reactionaries have gone from "it's not really happening", "it's not man made" to "it's too late anyways" in no time. The same goal remains; to keep doing nothing.


If by “reactionary” you mean “realist” then I agree.

Beyond the point of no return now. Time to start moving to higher ground.


There are many points of no return. There is a difference between 5 degrees of warming and 10 or 20.


Moving to higher ground only considers the first-order effects of climate change - floods and severe weather. Potential further effects include reduced agricultural output/efficiency, massive migrations of climate refugees, and the destabilization or collapse of national governments. If we do nothing, natural disasters will be the least of our concerns.




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