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The second option was to be part of Ukraine. It was supported by 2-3% of voters with 80% turnout. I dont see a meaningful distinction between this and the previous status quo.

Even Kiev doesnt believe a vote without the troops would have had a markedly different result, which is why it rejects the idea of holding a vote at all on constitutional grounds.

Many in the USSR rejected the idea of Ukrainian independence based upon a similar principle of the inviolability of Soviet borders.



The second option was to be a "part" of Ukraine under a different agreement than the one they had before invasion.


Do you genuinely believe that if that second option said "status quo" that the vote share would have jumped from 2% to > 50%?


I think if the second option was status quo and Russian military weren't occupying the area, and the "stay with Ukraine" side had been allowed to campaign, I think the vote share for stay would have been much higher. Even ignoring the potential of voter fraud due to Russia not allowing real third party observers.

I don't know exactly what it would be or if it would be over 50%, but we should reject the obvious sham that Russia carried out.


Pew Research found that 88% of crimeans wanted Kyiv to recognize the vote and 91% thought it was free and fair.

Do you think that they are wrong?

Do you subscribe to Kyiv's view that holding a vote is a criminal offence?




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