But is understandable how NATO troops and ballistic missiles at their doorstep could be a worry for them. Same as USA would not accept if Canada and Mexico joined some kind of Russian defence union, as we still remember from the 'Cuban missile crises'
And we also still remember US/UK/EU... invaded and bombed Iraq, Libya and Syria and demanded their leaders to step down. And specially in Syria all US made polls indicated that the population was happy with their leader. All those countries population live in worse conditions today
And Ukraine is also in a civil war since 2014
So I would prefer that there was no invasions anywhere, and Ukraine had said no to NATO. But weighting everything I say I am not interested in a world war 3
Well, a "civil war" inspired, organized, and supported by "peace-loving" neighboring country, which now tries to "peacefully" topple democratic government just to finish up the job.
I think you might mean “understandable” when you’re saying “not unreasonable”. Putin/Russia wanting a buffer state between them and nato makes sense, but forcing those people to be a buffer state without their consent isn’t reasonable.
For instance, they could have achieved an alliance with Ukraine by offering a better deal than Nato, but they decided to take control via warfare
I am going to call BS on NATO's threat to Russia. How many wars/conflicts has Russia engaged in without NATO interference? It is time to move on. If Russia doesn't plan to invade NATO territory, the most most NATO will do is criticize actions, not put warheads on foreheads. If anything, this is Putin creating a self fulfilling prophecy. Invade non-NATO members will make non-NATO members want to join NATO. Putin's response is equivalent to screwing for virginity. If Russia refuses to invade NATO territory, then NATO is doing its job. If any country refuses to invade NATO territory because of NATO's strength, NATO is accomplishing its goal.
Russian-Georgia War, Donbas/Donetsk, Chechnya, and the most NATO has done is member states providing arms to Ukraine and words of distaste.
Those Russian invasions happened after NATO officially invited those countries to join, so it is not self fulfilling
Those countries are right at Russia's border, US other NATO members invading countries thousands of miles away
NATO members are by far the biggest aggressors in the world, always in and out of countries, claiming to spread "freedom". The population in all the countries, they intervene, live in worse conditions today. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Kenya, Afghanistan, Uganda, Ethiopia...
But is understandable how NATO troops and ballistic missiles at their doorstep could be a worry for them. Same as USA would not accept if Canada and Mexico joined some kind of Russian defence union, as we still remember from the 'Cuban missile crises'
And we also still remember US/UK/EU... invaded and bombed Iraq, Libya and Syria and demanded their leaders to step down. And specially in Syria all US made polls indicated that the population was happy with their leader. All those countries population live in worse conditions today
And Ukraine is also in a civil war since 2014
So I would prefer that there was no invasions anywhere, and Ukraine had said no to NATO. But weighting everything I say I am not interested in a world war 3