No, the facts were pretty obvious and statistical in nature. The only argument was whether this was legal or not. Even pro-Affirmative action groups like Vox agree that there is discrimination against Asians
Ah, you're doing that thing where you presume your argument is correct. Got it.
Worthless to argue against, since you're not willing to entertain subtleties or nuance, and totally against the spirit of HN, but not much I can do about it except stop replying to you.
It's simple really: Colleges are removing the admission criteria that everyone, regardless their race, can be good at (i.e. SAT tests), and they add the criteria that only Black people are good at (i.e. being black). That's just plain racism, but this time it's not against Black people so it is "good racism".
Lol. Affirmative action has little impact on black admission rates at Ivy League schools. This has been shown time and time again. Whatever sort of historical anger Asian Americans have needs to be directed towards the group that maintains the status quo.
“We use public documents from the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard University lawsuit to examine admissions preferences for recruited athletes, legacies, those on the dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff (ALDCs). More than 43% of white admits are ALDC; the share for African American, Asian American, and Hispanics is less than 16%. Our model of admissions shows that roughly three-quarters of white ALDC admits would have been rejected absent their ALDC status. Removing preferences for athletes and legacies would significantly alter the racial distribution of admitted students away from whites.”
Plus, as a percentage of student population, Asian Americans are over represented at elite colleges. Both Black and Hispanic Americans have seen their representation decrease over the last 40 years. Asian Americas, in relative terms of US population, hold 4-5x the seats in top colleges. In some case 10x!
But yeah, let’s blame the 4% black population at UCLA, or the 8% at Harvard for taking Asian Americans deserved spot. Oh, and probably 2-3 % of all black admits are international students.
How about the focus be on expanding school capacity? College admission rates have hit all time lows because of increased competition and a failure to increase capacity.
Its pretty ridiculously that in 1980 most Ivy League schools had admission rates between 20 and 30%. Low admission rates are not a sign of good health for our education system.
