I find it hard to imagine people the desktop/commercial audio world wanting to write plugins in JS. At a glance, this seems like an interesting webaudio project that is trying to be too much. Plugins are used in a very different situation where low latency and high performance trump pretty much everything. Reconciling that with web dev priorities seems optimistic.

Yeah. I got lost at JS. Buffers and buffer manipulation are everything in audio processing, I don’t see anything stealing C/C++’s thunder here except Rust.

Slowly getting there with https://github.com/celtera/avendish :)

Their intro docs page says Windows and macOS, but actually going to the documentation on plugins says "macOS only" https://www.elementary.audio/docs/packages/plugin-renderer

That is indeed on offer :)

The new docs structure broke the website links, I'll get that fixed asap. See here in the mean time: https://www.elementary.audio/docs/packages/plugin-renderer

Also, as another user here has already pointed out, the "plugin development kit" is still macos only, though I anticipate releasing the windows version within hopefully a week or two.

still not convinced

you can make cross-platform plugins without JUCE by using iPlug, Faust or even Rust

the selling point of this seems to allow js/web developers to build plugins

and we already know what happened when web developers were allowed to build desktop apps (Electron)

luckily given real-time and cpu constraints this might never happen to Audio Plug-ins

You can make plugins in Faust, but it's not a super smooth process. iPlug is the nicest option.

I agree about the js though. Even if it's a reinvention of web audio with a C++ backend, js and DSP just don't feel like a good fit.

And I would be surprised if the UI side wasn't limited in the way that full native isn't.

Also, DPF. And if you're willing to use D, DPlug.

have you looked at iplug2?

https://iplug2.github.io

since I was already making my own knobs and panels for vcvrack, it was an easy fit for building out vst3/au plugins.

Last time I checked, a perpetual JUCE license was priced similar to 3 days from a C++ freelancer. I've never heard it being called out on price before.

It's changed since I last looked. J V4 Used to be $999 for solo devs (2016), now J V6 is $800 with up to $500k annual revenue.

And there's a free tier that allows up to $50k annual revenue.

That is indeed pretty affordable.

J V3 used to be more than that. I remember looking at it and writing it off for cost reasons, but that was quite some time ago.

Support for LV2 is landing in JUCE 7 apparently.