You might think it’s cheesy to warn about autocrats and attacks on democracy but I happen to think that’s very important.
I wasn’t aware that there weren’t actually 4 deaths so my bad. I guess the whole episode is a nothingburger since only one person got actually killed there?
Or would you care to respond to any of the other points?
I think you misread my comment. The cheesy part isn't to talk about the events, or what trump did. It's the insane hyperbole, and the never ending exaggeration in the words used to describe what happened.
A good example of that is the death count: we got to the point where some people were so desperate to turn the whole situation into an iconic, unprecedented historical attack that they counted a cop who died the day after from a stroke in the death count. The "insurrection" narrative does not sound credible without deaths or violence, so the fact that the only death was a rioter killed by cops was a pretty inconvenient plot hole.
I assume you are pretty informed and even then, you still had in mind the spurious death count. That goes to show just how much the early hyperbole poisoned the entire discussion around the events and spread disinformation.
Another example of disingenuous reality bending is the claim that the rioters were "armed so they came here to overthrow the government". When I think they found one or two person with a firearm.
To me it's simple, if the riots were actually that bad, the huge disinformation push and extremely disingenuous rhetoric wouldn't have been needed.
You're clearly trying to minimize what happened. Alone, the amount of effort you are making to discount the words and actions of the President of the United States is damaging to the country. The real damage isn't in the people who died but in the damage to our democracy, our institutions, and our credibility in the world.
What am I discounting? If I got any facts wrong, let me know. Otherwise it's just that your interpretation is different. I know some americans have a very "you are either with us or with the terrorist" outlook to... everything but I can assure you that I'm not making any particular effort. Your hyperbole is duly noted though.
I agree that the damage isn't in the people that died (because they didn't) and that the damage is more towards the institution. The problem is that the narrative for a year has been to make martyrs out of the 4 deaths (not the fifth, for obvious reasons). Sure, now that it's untenable to do that I hear that the "deaths didn't even matter!" but that just makes the entire thing even more blatant.
For all I care, trump could've been arrested for what he did. Again that's not my point, my argument was mostly that the borderline hysterical bend to every single detail of that day
is a bit embarrassing. You can say that the president caused an illegal riot to influence or interfere with the electoral process and should be arrested, without going into "it's an insurrection and a coup attempt by armed militias trying to kill congress members and also etc etc."
It reminds me of when the conservatives were trying to do everything to make the black lives matter protests sound like an insanely violent anarchist civil war.
I guess I deeply disagree that it’s hyperbole to keep reminding people of the fact that the sitting president of the US did not commit to a peaceful transition of power and encouraged his supporters to storm the Capitol to “stop the steal” and went so far to tell them he’d be right there with them.
You might think it’s cheesy to warn about autocrats and attacks on democracy but I happen to think that’s very important.
I wasn’t aware that there weren’t actually 4 deaths so my bad. I guess the whole episode is a nothingburger since only one person got actually killed there?
Or would you care to respond to any of the other points?