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Of course, these Russian minority casualties died as collateral from Russia and Russian backed separatists as well as from Ukraine. And more saliently, Russia is the aggressor so none of those people would have died if they hadn’t put Ukraine into an existential position.


But the same reasoning works for Assad: all of his victims are collateral from fighting Western-supported rebels as well as ISIS.

He has every right to say that the West (and a bit of Turkey) are aggressors and he is defending his country by bombing cities in it.


Nonsense. Assad deliberately used chemical and kinetic weapons on civilians, moreover neither the US nor other western countries are using this as a pretext for annexing Syria. There is no analogue.


> Assad deliberately used chemical and kinetic weapons on civilians

So did NATO in 1999 bombing of yugoslavia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/may/08/balkans <- cluster bombing a (farmers) market

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/24/balkans3 <- tv station, "Serb TV station was legitimate target, says Blair"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grdelica_train_bombing <- civilian train and bridge (and having to speed up the video, to make it seem non-intentional)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48134881 <- even a chinese embassy

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/07/nato.attack.01/i... <- "school, a monastery and other civilian facilities"

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/14/refugees.02/inde... <- albanian refugees

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/01/kosovo.military.... <- bus

etc.


I am sorry, people in Syria. We can't condemn the use of heavy weapons against civilians, because... checking notes... NATO members used heavy weapons against civilians in 1999.


Ukraine deliberately shelled civians for 8 years, so what?

Their routine tactics of dealing with rebels is to bomb civians dear to those rebels. When they don't hope to make territorial gains, they wish to inflict some damage and civian targets are way easier to hit.

This week, they're using freshly supplied M777 to bomb areas of Donetsk they could not reach previously. Such as by hitting four schools in a single day.

How is this principially different from Assad?




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