Russia produces enough food, that we (=rest of europe) have problems if they don't export it and not vice-versa, they also have enough oil/gas, that again, we have problems, if they don't export it, they also have most of the raw materials available locally plus a lot of companies that produce everything needed for basic infrastructure.
They're also friendly with countries like china and india for the rest of the things they need, and have gas to export/sell to them to be able to pay for all that stuff.
I'm more afraid that Janez and Hans and Pierre will have to pick up crops to survive, and not Boris.
> Hell, even the UK isn’t that screwed and they’re short of farm hands to pick crops and vets to certify the abattoirs because of Brexit.
And it's funny, because this is a purely economical issue... pay more and you'll get workers to do the work for you. You cannot pay romanian paychecks to british workers.
You’re still missing the point of “hypothetical”. It’s not a word I’d gotten around to learning the German for before writing this comment despite moving to Berlin in 2018, so as you’ve indicated you’re from the Balkans, I’m wondering if you know what I mean by it?
I’m not asking you to judge the likelihood of two things, nor their consequences, I’m asking you to tell me if you think they are equivalent. Does A=B, where A is a 10% recession, etc.
> Russia produces enough food, that we (=rest of europe) have problems if they don't export
False.
Russia exported €1.8 billion agricultural products to the EU last year:
The EU agriculture sector is about 1.5% of its $US 17,000 billion nominal GDP, i.e. $US 255 billion nominal, which at current exchange rates is €237 billion, or to put it another way, what it gets from Russia is 0.75% by value of what it makes itself.
I’m old enough to remember when the EU’s biggest problem was colossal over-production of food, and it’s agricultural policy being called a market-distorting subsidy.
This is also backed up by EU countries having access to more food per person than Russia. Not that it matters because both are about 1000 kcal/day higher than actually needed: https://ourworldindata.org/food-supply (because, in case you skimmed over the bit at the top, hypotheticals about what constitutes “equal harm”).
> they also have enough oil/gas, that again, we have problems, if they don't export it
Yes (hence Hungary realpolitik), but not insurmountable problems, and we should be moving away from those fuels anyway even without this war.
> they also have most of the raw materials available locally plus a lot of companies that produce everything needed for basic infrastructure.
Define “basic infrastructure”.
Then ask yourself why Russian tank production halted.
> have gas to export/sell to them to be able to pay for all that stuff.
Not on the scale they need to keep their economy running.
> pay more and you'll get workers to do the work for you.
Vets are licensed. The number required is greater than all of the ones in the UK.
As for crops, the farmers have tried this and get basically no takers. Can they try again for even more money? Only if the supermarket are willing to pay more for the food, which requires the customers to be willing to pay more for the food, which they can’t because too many are already short of money.
They're also friendly with countries like china and india for the rest of the things they need, and have gas to export/sell to them to be able to pay for all that stuff.
I'm more afraid that Janez and Hans and Pierre will have to pick up crops to survive, and not Boris.
> Hell, even the UK isn’t that screwed and they’re short of farm hands to pick crops and vets to certify the abattoirs because of Brexit.
And it's funny, because this is a purely economical issue... pay more and you'll get workers to do the work for you. You cannot pay romanian paychecks to british workers.