> Whenever there is an argument between two sides, find the third side
That is not an argument. That is a value statement. If someone says the sky is blue and someone says its tie die, should I find a third person whose of the opinion that the sky is mauve? Being different doesn't make an argument correct
You repeated arguments that have been debunked numerous times
You linked a study explicitly stating the opposite of your assumption
You now want me to go through tomes of data to be convinced to your side.
No, come up with something new that doesn't require us to do a bunch of work for you. Your arguments are tired and were not gonna waste more time on them.
I've explained why I can't link directly. It's somewhere on page 52 or maybe 54. It might be in the 60s but it's in that range. There is a table you can ctrl-f for and it has stats broken down by race and the weapon the person has when police respond to calls.
The third side here is that police disproportionately use force against people who have weapons.
I hope you can find the table on your own because I gave you everything you need to find out. If not, I'll reply in an a few hours or so with a direct link.
Alright, seriously. I'm finally somewhere with internet. The fact that this was so god damn hard to find is so telling. Look starting at page 63. I really can't believe this information is _so_ difficult to find.
Look at fleeing police in Table C20: Civilian actions at the time of police encounter (as concluded by
the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2000 – 2006
Look at resisting arrest in Table C21: Civilian actions at the time of police encounter (as concluded by
the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2013 – 2017
Look at who has guns and knives in Table C22: Civilian possession of a weapon at the time
of police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force
investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2000 – 2006
Look at guns and knives in Table C23: Civilian possession of a weapon at the time of
police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force
investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2013 – 2017
There's all the stats and numbers directly linked and the relevant tables. Am I still a racist?
btw, this conversation would have gone a lot smoother if you had just said you didn't see the tables with the race/weapon breakdown. Then I would have realized I was linking to the wrong thing this entire time. You wanted me to be a racist so badly that you were letting me flail around looking like an idiot with irrelevant links (even though I told you my situation - I couldn't _see_ the PDF because I couldn't download it) and weren't even trying to work with me here or give me the benefit of the doubt.
> btw, this conversation would have gone a lot smoother if you had just said you didn't see the tables with the race/weapon breakdown
It’s not that I couldn’t find the data, I did not look because you did not indicate the data would be any different than the same arguments that also come out defending the police when it comes to discrimination. And your data still follows that! It’s just crime stat! It does not account for police prejudice that leads to overpolicing
> Am I still a racist?
If you walk away from these stats thinking black peoples actions are the root cause of the overpolicing, then yea you probably are
It has a table showing how often suspects have weapons when the police show up broken down by race.
Whenever there is an argument between two sides, find the third side.