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This is a bit disingenuous.

I have known too many people with "psychotic disorders". I have learnt the hard way to show such people enormous respect. A person who cannt distinguish a real thing from a thought is somebody that can do very surprising things.

These can be wonderful things, great artists etcetera. But it can also mean unexpected violence.

Yes "psychadelics should be considered very carefully... in context of those who have experienced psychosis". Everything should in that context.

A cup of tea should be.



I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that is causing you to behave as if someone who had experienced psychosis cannot live a full, functioning, well-managed life. Someone with a well-controlled schizophrenia spectrum/psychotic disorder/mood disorder with psychosis does not generally have to be careful about "everything". Someone who experiences psychosis due to insomnia, dehydration, or drugs generally does not pose a risk to themselves or others once the causal factor is removed. I understand your reaction may be coming from a place of trauma but please understand it is misinformed.


> I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that is causing you to behave as if

I know this is currently a popular snarky rhetorical maneuver, but it gives me the creeps every time. It’s pretty ugly.


> you to behave as if someone who had experienced psychosis cannot live a full, functioning, well-managed life

It is true that it is possible to manage psychosis.

But it is also true that if you live with some one with psychosis you must respect the illness.

Denying that is dangerous. Unexpected violence is dangerous, and unexpected violence is a common symptom of psychosis.


People who experience psychosis are more likely to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators of it, and it is perfectly safe to live with someone who has a well-managed disorder with psychosis as part of its symptom profile. I understand this may not be your personal experience.


> I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that is causing you to behave

> I understand your reaction may be coming from a place of trauma

This is basically personally attacking someone on no evidence except their opinion, which happens to be different from yours.

I wonder what trauma you have experienced to behave like this. /s


Please take my position in good faith, in response to someone who claims to have learned misinformation "the hard way".


If it is in good faith then let me respond (albeit quite late). I've also learned "the hard way" how to behave around people who experience psychosis by taking care of multiple friends at various points in time. Some people get violent, some don't. Those that don't generally will almost never get violent -- their brain seemingly just "doesn't have that pattern", so when their consciousness is starting to hit random buttons, it doesn't often come up as an option. People that do get physical (or heavily paranoid) have the potential to go violent, and that must be kept in mind for your own safety. It's obviously a lot more muddy than that but it's something to know.

I also know a nurse in a psychiatric clinic (the harder kind), he gets bit so much they have special vaccines (?, or some other kind of medication) to protect him against illnesses that can come from a human's mouth.

I don't believe the above reactions that I have learned are trauma, it's just the rational way to act when you've seen literal examples of what can happen.




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