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Everything adds up. You take the fluoridated water, I'll take the spring water.

Even as a kid, I could never work out fluoridated water: it was supposed to fix your teeth, but then it produced dental fluorosis. How moronic.

If you want to mess with your pineal gland (amongst other things,) ingest fluoridated water.




Well the point is really this: the evidence you're citing to suggest that fluoridation 'messes with your pineal gland' is dubious at best; consider the possibility that you may be mistaken.

re: everything adding up - the human body is actually pretty efficient at disposing of toxins generally, so no, not everything adds up. I don't know whether or not this applies to fluorides though - are you aware of any research there?


Dan - I'd prefer that you go and research if fluoride is healthy or not, the burden of proof that it is good/bad for you and in what amounts, is on you. I am happy with my decisions.


The question is not if you are happy with your decisions. The question is about the ethics of spreading misinformation.

In this circumstance, you are simply wrong about the dangers of fluoridated water. Your claims suggest an ignorance about fundamental tenets of pharmacology, and the importance of dose. It is not everyday knowledge, and everyone is ignorant about many things; I don't mean it as an insult. It does mean, though, that you should be careful about giving others advice.


"The question is about the ethics of spreading misinformation."

Are you sure your sources on sodium fluoride being safe is not misinformation, and that rather I'm the one spreading misinformation? Have you researched opposing points of view?

Beyond research, is it common sense to ingest a known neuro and bone toxin at any level for any length of time? Have you tried spring water for any length of time, how does it make you feel?

Oh hold on, I'm wrong about fluoridated water, and now my health is at risk for not having it.


I'm a physician, and I read quite a bit of primary literature. I also know that there are great sources of info on the Internet, but many of them are not so great. I read this article, and a few linked from it, in the Journal of Public Health Dentistry, before I responded.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1752-7325.2010....

How about you?

Your argument, "is it common sense to ingest a known neuro and bone toxin at any level for any length of time?" continues to expose your ignorance. Anything, even water, is toxic at the right concentrations. All substances can be poisons, but some at the right dose can be medicine.

It is faulty to say that "if a lot is bad, then even a little is bad," just as much as it's wrong to say "if a little is good a lot must be great" like the vitamin mega-dose proponents say.


Well, I have read about Nazis putting fluoride in their death camp water on numerous occasions. Do you think they did that for the betterment of health and improving lives?

I've also read about many countries banning its use. I've also read about it accumulating in the pineal gland.

Do you think you can trust dentists for accurate information on fluoride after they put mercury into people's mouths, calling it silver amalgam?

My ignorance level here is not the problem.


> Well, I have read about Nazis putting fluoride in their death camp water on numerous occasions. Do you think they did that for the betterment of health and improving lives?

The Nazis were also interested in getting rid of parasites on their prisoners and stopping epidemics.

Wait - are you saying public health efforts aimed at stopping communicable diseases are Nazi-approved?! I can't believe I approved of Nazis! Quick, tell the anti-vaxxers!

(http://lesswrong.com/lw/lw/reversed_stupidity_is_not_intelli...)


"Wait - are you saying public health efforts aimed at stopping communicable diseases are Nazi-approved?! "

YES! I am. You're so intelligent and funny.




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