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		lapcat on Sept 19, 2022 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: MacOS 10.15: Slow by Design (2020) > Are you sure? Yes. This can be verified with a packet trace. It can also be verified visually. Download a notarized stapled app, disable your internet connection, and launch the app. You'll see a Gatekeeper dialog like this: "Safari downloaded this file on [date]. As of [date], Apple checked it for malicious software and none was detected." Notice "As of [date]". Then press Cancel, re-enable your internet, and launch the app again. This time "As of [date]" is gone! It's phoned home to check.

mike_hearn on Sept 19, 2022 [–]

That's interesting to know, thanks. I wonder if they changed this, or if Quinn was not aware of exactly how it was used when he gave his answer.

lapcat on Sept 19, 2022 | [–]

Well, notarization was optional for most Mac apps on macOS 10.14 Mojave but required on 10.15 Catalina.

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