The first 20 secs of dialog from Jobs is not believable. He never did chit-chat. He wouldn't give a toot about some podcast. His mission would be to get to the point - himself, his company, or a big idea that intersects one or the other. He wouldn't try to flatter the the host.

Bro Jogan, on the other hand, sounds very believable.

This might have something to do with the ratio of Bro/Jobs training material.

Still, this technology has huge potential.