Well for one, they actually achieve meaningful change in the world.

Half the people here work for companies that do nothing but steal my latest PII from my grandma’s contact list “yes share contacts with recipe app” to sell me ads.

I have 3 cars in my garages right now that only exist because he pushed EVs. I have a boat with starlink.

The dude has done more to improve my life than any of the FAANG jerkoffs, and I’m thankful for that

I think it’s just nice that they’re all large successful companies _without_ an ad model.

You don’t think these companies have produced meaningful change? They’ve meaningfully changed the world far far more than Musk companies. Clearly you are a fan of the Musk companies more, but who cares?

>I don't really understand his companies as "well built" in any reasonable sense that I can identify.

I didn't say well built despite your quotation marks. But close enough...what I meant is that he has two big companies doing impressive things.

e.g. I don't see anyone else regularly flying to the ISS

Maybe the companies are a toxic chaotic shitshow on the inside, I don't know, but from afar he seems to have done well with both Tesla and spaceX

Yes, his companies are completely sloppy and grossly incompetent. They only delivered 343,000 vehicles last quarter, which is way less than they should have, and the wait on a Model Y is close to a year, indicating extremely poor planning. Total joke of a company.