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Dumb question: so if you stored digital assets in a FTX wallet, does that mean you just lost all of your $$$?

If so, wow'zer.



Yes, that’s generally what happens when an unregulated bank goes bankrupt. The list of creditors will be long, and some have priority claims so they get paid first.

Everybody said this can happen. Coinbase was forced to include a warning to this effect in their filings as a public company. But nobody cares when the going is good and FOMO is strong.


Mutual funds and ETFs can have the same problem, but they generally structure it so the fund is a separate entity and a "customer" of the parent company. If the fund house goes bankrupt, the fund is safe because the fund house didn't actually own it.

While I don't touch crypto for the same reason I don't touch Beanie Babies, it's made me think more about what is money, what's intrinsic value, and what protections are in place in case something goes wrong.


Based on previous exchange bankruptcies, you're now a creditor: so you'll get something at some time, but not a lot and not soon.

(Did the mtgox payout happen yet?)


No idea, on MTGOX I don't even know if I'm still a creditor. I had ~100BTC on there I've already written it off.


They are starting at begining of 2023, I'm creditor, just gave bank account details etc. Most people will get their money back because all assets were converted to fiat from the time of collapse and BTC was worth then magnitudes less than today.


I’m not familiar with that and if they have a wallet thats different from their exchange app, but the litmus test is:

If you don't have access to your keys then you never owned your digital assets

and if you don't know how to run that test then blaming the victim is completely appropriate here


That's how "Not your keys, not your coins" saying was coined.


Yes. They have the keys to the wallet and can freeze withdrawals.

Not your keys, not your coins.


How does FDIC insurance play into this?



It doesn’t apply. Crypto investors wanted to be free of pesky regulation, remember.


I think you are missing context. FTX was supposedly FDIC insured until this came out this year: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/19/crypto-firm-ftx-receives-cea...




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