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What about just paying the balance every month? 'Don't spend money that isn't in your pocket' seems pretty simple.


Then just use cash.


That is perfectly acceptable and the way to go.

There are reasons to use a credit card - you get purchase protection, for one. You also can build up credit if you want to buy a house. You need one to rent a car.

But really, while there might be other reasons, the only reason to get a good credit rating is to be able to buy a house. Everything else can be paid for in cash (check, online payment from your checking account, etc)

When you use a credit card, you should treat it exactly like cash. You should have cash in the bank before you purchase anything with a credit card, and then pay the entire credit card balance each and every month.

If someone has a problem with this and just can't do it, then they should not get a credit card at all. Credit cards are very dangerous technology if one can't control it. Just like fire - if you are not careful with it, you can set your house on fire.


Lets be clear here, by credit card I meant an actual credit card, not a debit card backed by a bank account, that is effectively cash.

You can do everything you listed without an actual CC, including rent a vehicle (I know, because I do it).

https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/mortgages/how-to-buy-house-n...

And that's kind of the silliness of credit score, you can game it by never actually using credit.


I don't disagree with what you say. I personally loathe credit cards and credit in general, and I personally don't use any type of credit. I pay for my cars in cash.

I don't think you get the same purchase protection with a debit card vs credit card.

As far as renting a vehicle, I've tried on a debit card and been denied. But that was quite a while ago so things could have changed, and I guess have as you have done it.


You still get protection from a debit card but the bank will cancel and re-issue since it's considered a point-of-sale. I've had to do it twice. Banks are required to do this due to consumer protection laws. I actually think the CC protection leads to more fraud, I've seen over and over people on this very website say things such as I'm being silly for how careful I am with my debit card because the CC company will just pay the fraud. I think it creates more risky behavior. It would be akin to wrecking into people out of spite because you have car insurance.

As for renting a vehicle, their requirements are usually a bit more stringent, things such as showing more documentation that I live where I say I live, they'll put a hold on a larger amount, but I've never been outright denied from renting a vehicle for having a debit card.

Of course, having said that, I was denied the last time I tried to rent a vehicle because they had started running credit checks and I have no credit. This despite the fact that I had been renting regularly from them for 7 or 8 years (a few times a year). Can you imagine thinking credit was a better proxy than your own records for determining someone's trustworthiness?

I've never liked rental car companies, they're all shitty in 1 way or another, but that for me was the last straw. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever rent a vehicle again.

Instead I went out and purchased a vehicle to do exactly what I was trying to do with the rental, I posted about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34099429#34114741


It's only that simple before you actually own any resources. Even just having a tenant will make things more complicated than that.




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