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> without phones, we might have chatted with one another, got to know one another while we waited

If I'm an employee on a company bus, I'm just as likely to be a (mostly) silent meeting attendee on a status meeting as listening to an audiobook or podcast. Sometimes I've done this and just communicated via meeting chat to give feedback/add to meeting discussion.

Without phones, I'd probably be WFH so I could attend the meeting.




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