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Yikes! As a starting point, I'd love for Workoutdoors to add a valid SSL and not index their HTTP site to Google. I tried this once on my Apple Watch Ultra and found it a maddening experience. I'm hopeful though that investment in these space improves because, to your point, Strava has not been contributing all that much.


Like sibling, I'm a little confused about the issue with no HTTPS. I rarely even view the site, and no user data is on there AFAICT. And do the data even leave the watch/phone? I don't see any traffic that isn't just synching iCloud data.

Anyway, don't want to get hung up on that, but more to agree with your point about the usability of swipe left/right/double-tap here, there, everywhere. I understand the dev is working with they have been given, but I'm just trying to run not be pre-occupied with my watch. And kudos to the dev for outstanding work, and for making an app I want to use. But it just doesn't fit me.

So with latest updates in WatchOS 9, I just use the built-in workout app. If I need maps of some sort, I use an app called Footpath (which I discovered here on HN a few years back when the dev posted). Now, I think the $25/year is a little pricey for what you get. On the other hand, I continue to pay it because it's so damned handy. Scrawl on a map with your meat stick, using a phone or tablet, and it snaps it to trails/roads and gives you the mileage. When you're happy with your route, sync it to your watch, sorted. And unlike Workoutdoors, it will then proceed to read you directions (if you so choose). The directions are so good, I've done a 15 mile run on single track in community forests around Anacortes, WA without looking at my watch. Imagine a forest with trails everywhere, intersecting each other, running parallel to each other, making for confusing navigation. But with enough "in 50 meters, turn left on Trail 239", "go past the bridge, then turn right onto Trail 123", "you are off course. The course is 150 feet to your left." It is truly impressive and very helpful when I'm in an unfamiliar area. Garmin can do the same, but it doesn't talk to you, the buzz on your wrist is easy to miss, and all you get is a little arrow at the bottom of the watch screen.

didn't mean to ramble on about Footpath. No relationship, just a satisfied customer (mostly; drop that subscription $5-10).


I'm a little confused, are the concerns with SSL and indexing related to your experience using it? I use it on Apple watch ultra, and was not aware of security issues, but the find the usability to be excellent in most cases.




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