So if Apple products are “user hostile” then why are enough users happily spending twice as much on iPhones and more on Macs to make Apple the most valuable company in the world?

Maybe their decisions are only hostile to geeks who want to run Linux on the Apple Pencil.

> So if Apple products are “user hostile” then why are enough users happily spending twice as much on iPhones and more on Macs

They aren't all "happy" about it, but as I mentioned in the post you replied to, there is not a decent alternative.

> Maybe their decisions are only hostile to geeks who want to run Linux on the Apple Pencil.

Certainly not but one would have to be interested in the fact of the matter to realize it.

There is an alternative - 85% of phone users choose Android.

> 85% of phone users choose Android.

Indeed, seems they are not "happy" to buy Apple.

> There is an alternative

I mentioned this twice, it is also notoriously inadequate and user-hostile as well. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?

> Indeed, seems they are not "happy" to buy Apple.

Your thesis was that Apple customers were not happy to buy Apple products…

> is also notoriously inadequate and user-hostile as well

Your second thesis was there was no decent alternative.

Well, if so many people are unhappy with both iOS and Android, I’m sure they can but something like PinePhone.

Or maybe most people don’t care about running a full open source stack on the Apple Pencil?