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		_sagacity on Feb 12, 2012 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Ask HN: What are the good old ideas that still mak... try http://www.webmasterworld.com for deep down, in-the-trenches type discussions and http://www.searchengineland.com for more editorially fashioned coverage