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Oil isn't "turned into fertilizer".

Methane is used as a source of hydrogen to fix atmospheric nitrogen into ammonia, but it's entirely possible but slightly more expensive to use hydrogen from splitting water. When natural gas prices go up, it'll be cheaper to use electrolysis on water so that's what will be used, no starvation involved.

You don't know what you're talking about.

The generational BS about not being able to do agriculture any more in n decades doesn't have any merit, it's just a bubble of doomers who have no idea what they're talking about convince each other that the world is going to end.




I believe the H from the oil (literally the hydrogen atom) is incorporated chemically into the resulting ammonia, which would be consistent with saying "oil is turned into fertilizer" in most worlds that I move through.


I mean, yes, this is what I explained, but in no way is the hydrocarbon necessary, it's just one of many alternative feedstocks for hydrogen.


I don't think this is logical. You said "oil is not turned into fertilizer" but then you agree, oil can be used to do it. And, in reality, nearly all nitrogen fertilizer uses oil as the feedstock, so probably, in the future, don't say "you don't know what you're talking about" unless you are 100% technically correct, which in this case, I don't think you were.


He's saying oil (or any fossil fuel) doesn't have to be the feedstock from which ammonia is produced. That natural gas (not oil) is currently the leading feedstock is entirely beside the point. Agriculture can switch away from it at any time.

And, in particular, this statement is figurative and literal bullshit:

> Without that oil to turn into fertilizer, the only other chance is to have ruminants actively managed on a regenerative farm growing both meat and produce.




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