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While I do enjoy me some MKBHD, I'd like the opinion of someone who's not fully bought into the Apple ecosystem already. This is a good perspective to have, but it's an incomplete perspective.

And I'd like to know how realistic this thing is for "not apple users". It's a VR headset, can I use it with Windows to play MS Flight Simulator or Star Citizen? Can I use it on Linux to get wall-to-wall emavs? More real world testing is required.



It’s not a VR headset, it is a computer with its own OS and M2 processor. I don’t think that VR or AR was mentioned a single time in the Apple event. They say this is the first device for spatial computing and that this is equivalent to the first Mac as far as changing OS UI goes.

This will be another part of the Apple system along with Macs, iPhones, iPads, etc. You will never be able to use this as just a monitor equivalent for any other OS.


Right, so: it's just another VR headset, just beefier. Have you not been paying attention to Meta's Quest and the like? Modern VR headsets are computers, they run their own OS, with applications/games loaded onto the device itself, and they can be used as a VR display client for other operating systems.

This is an M2 computer strapped to your head: it can bloody well do VR, let's see what folks do with this device that Apple never asked them to, but they do anyway because Apple doesn't get to tell them how to use their overpriced hardware (especially if the moment you buy it, the buyback is $50 if you're lucky)


Quest Pro owner[1]: it's "a total waste of money", "embarassing how much of an unpolished piece of garbage it feels like", it's "a steaming pile of trash", "infuriating", "buggy", "janky".

MKBHD on the Vision Pro: better image passthrough, better responsiveness, better hand tracking, better eye tracking, better image quality than any other headset he's ever used.

You: "overpriced hardware".

No, better hardware.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36220459


Something can be both "more expensive because it's better" and "overpriced" at the same time. Those two are not mutually exclusive.


Someone can't say "let's wait until people have them for review before speculating" and then describe them as "overpriced" at the same time, those two are mutually exclusive.


They most certainly aren't, given Apple's track record for adding about 200% markup on every single product they've made in the last 20 years. This product is overpriced until proven otherwise even if it does exactly what they claim and it beats the competition by a country mile. If it's not $1000 over an already healthy profit margin, that'd be an Apple first in a very long time.


200% markup compared to what? The price they paid for the stuff? This product is not overpriced until any competitor makes anything like as good, and sells it significantly cheaper (people who pay for branding get value from branding). Which we won't know until ~2024 when this thing goes on sale.


You should already know the answers to those questions.


Why? It's only been out for a day, you telling me everyone's already had their run at hacking it? That seems like pretending you know what folks will do with this thing.




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