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> ultimately you work with objects in your code, and relational tables in your database

Yes, you can map a record in a DB table to a class, and as long as you are happy with retrieving records (and related records) and mapping them to classes, an ORM will be all you need. But SQL is not just limited to the columns of a table, you can join, define new columns in your select statement, group, use aggregate functions etc. etc., and then you quickly get into territory that the ORM doesn't understand anymore. So the point that ORMs take away a lot of the flexibility that SQL gives you still stands...




This is not an objection to ORMs, except perhaps very simplistic ones. The ORMs I'm familiar with let you map queries to arbitrary objects. I use CTEs, joins, groups, aggregations, custom columns, etc in SQL queries (with Hibernate) all the time.




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