Would be even better if HN would automatically rewrite Twitter links to use the current workaround. Especially if the point is to foster discussion here around a single comment, no need to load the whole application.
All? Even important service announcements or serious notifications?
edit: why the downvotes? I'm simply trying to engage in curious discussion. Apologies, I'm neurodivergent and I can't often discern between humor or not.
> edit: why the downvotes? I'm simply trying to engage in curious discussion. Apologies, I'm neurodivergent and I can't often discern between humor or not.
I appreciate your willingness to ask questions, and your candor about neurodivergence. I wish it were easier to tell the difference on the internet between someone who's trolling and someone who just doesn't get the day's in-joke, and, unfortunately, since trolls are really good at seizing on the benefit of the doubt, it's often expedient to err on the side of harshness.
I was making a whimsical remark—not especially a joke, since there was no intended punchline. The words 'hither' and 'thither' used to be more common, but nowadays have more of an archaic flavor, so I found it funny to see them here. (I had not been aware of the context provided by SushiHippie (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36555921), so it was only an in-joke by lucky happenstance.)
I always assumed Yaccarino was merely a figurehead installed in an effort to make Twitter more palatable to advertisers. Elon never stopped making policy pronouncements from his personal account despite nominally giving up the CEO title.
I'm not really sure what she thought was going to happen. There is no way that Musk was going to stop making decisions, especially about content moderation, which is really the main concern of advertisers. If he wants it to be his kind of speech over the concerns of advertisers, that's what it's going to be, and she has no path to success.
I've heard Elon really seems like he's listening and that he's actually going to take advice. Yoel Roth actually believed that Elon was going to implement his trust and safety recommendations. Then he would go and tweet what he was actually going to do as soon as he was out of the meeting. At this point it's pretty well documented.
Probably. She's 60, I'm sure she could keep working if she wanted to, but maybe getting involved in the wildest ride in tech is a good story from which to launch your retirement career of being a media personality yourself. I'm sure she'd be perfect on Bill Maher or something. I could see it being a good compensation package too. Several millions more in the bank to salute the captain on a sinking ship, then sneak off to a lifeboat.
And name recognition too. This is the first I had ever heard of her. So, good move there.
Yeah but her lawyers know that and he'll have to pay the severance eventually. She probably has money to wait out whatever legal delay tactics Twitter counsel would employ.
To some extent she is also probably there to play the same "say yes to Elon about some dumb idea and then get the team to implement a somewhat less dumb version and convince him it was his idea all along" game with him that Tesla and SpaceX leadership reportedly does.
I’ve always wondered what it’s like to work for a CEO where you simultaneously 1. can’t say no to him, and 2. can’t implement their hairbrained ideas without killing your product and then being blamed for it.
I heard a rumor (who knows if it’s true) that in the early-ish days of Amazon, they had an entirely separate backend and frontend just for Bezos that would only display if his account was logged in. So when he asked for something crazy they could just implement it in the Bezos-Amazon and not fuck up the main product.
Not sure how early we are talking with Amazon but I was there in '99 and that was not the case then, nor did I ever hear of such a thing. Not that I have lots of positive things to say about Bezos but he knew what the site was doing and would never have been so easily fooled.
Honestly this is how many of the cultures higher up on the authoritarian scale operate. You say yes to your higher-up no matter what they ask, then depending on whether or not it's actually a good idea you may or may not do it.
Regarding 1st sentence, leave. Or, if you really want to keep working there, you collect what you can for a while, then leave before the product tanks and your name could be associated with it. Musk has his own reality distortion field (tm) protecting him from any PR backlash, his employees don't.
> I’ve always wondered what it’s like to work for a CEO where you simultaneously 1. can’t say no to him, and 2. can’t implement their hairbrained ideas without killing your product and then being blamed for it.
When I try to imagine this, what I do is think about US or British politics after 2015 or so. And then I feel enraged. And I conclude that this is what it would be like, only closer, more immediate, and more sickness-inducing.
Musk, Trump, Boris Johnson: ever-present, narcissistic sociopaths who inject themselves into everything and ruin lives, up close and further afield.
I have no idea whether the Bezos story is true, but the sound engineers working for the Beach Boys apparently really did eventually set up a mixing desk for Murry Wilson (the Wilsons' overbearing, abusive father and interfering manager) so he could make his idiotic changes whenever he wanted, but that only affected what he heard:
Most people cannot take radical ideas and don't understand that Elon Musk does not need to care and foes not care if he fails with Twitter after first trying to construct something with a social impact.
Elon Musk can fuck up every company he has and (as long as he doesn't get sued by angry investors) he will still be able to live a great, amazing life.
Edit: I get down votes but no replies. If you disagree, it would be beneficial to write why.
> Most people cannot take radical ideas...If you disagree, it would be beneficial to write why.
It might help the credibility of the free speech absolutionist if said absolutionist didn't assist a certain Turkish dictator shut down free speech, didn't mute journalists covering his actions against elonmuskjet, didn't censor the blocktheblue campaign, didn't try to erase the existence of substack from twitter, didn't help the Indian gov censor tweets that Gov didn't like ... off the top of my head.
An individual using their position of power to silence unliked speech - and help authoritarians do the same ... it just isn't very radical.
He has moronic ones. The only reason any of his companies have done well is because they have people that can manage HIM well enough to do well in spite of his idiotic moronic stupid ideas.
Yaccarino was placed there simply so that when twitter does eventually go belly up Musk can go "it's her fault, I wasn't the CEO". I'm unsure why anyone thought/thinks she has any other purpose?
Elon was making tweeting-while-crapping toilet jokes the same late night that he (quite foolishly) tried to drag Halli Thorleifsson. I wonder how many important twitter decisions have been impacted by Elon being affected by Ozempic side effects
Yaccarino doesn't seem to be making the wide-sweeping announcements that Elon does.
Given that this outage and rate limiting may legit make Twitter's business infeasible, I change my prediction that Yaccarino will leave Twitter from within 3 months to within 3 weeks.
These people tend to hold on until right before their reputation is totally unsalvageable so they can relaunch their personal brand with a hero narrative.
That's what happened Esther Crawford, now she tweets about her hopes to productize 'moments of calm and psychological intimacy', whatever that means. Can't load the tweet rn because rate limited (lol) but the replies were divided between people shilling their product and other people suggesting that fireplaces and loveseats already meet this need.
It sounds like they are facing a novel denial of service attack that was near to the point of being able to imperil their service. This is an obviously temporary remediation to keep the systems up, not a new policy for the site. And all of that falls right under the purview of the CTO.
A more plausible explanation would be that they no longer have the engineering capability to maintain the site, or its prior attack resistance.
If there is any sort of novel scraping going on, and their only response is to shut down the site for all the accounts, their engineering capabilities have been pretty much zeroed out, and it's a massive indictment of the leadership decisions.
Plus, at this point believing anything that Musk says is extremely foolish. If this was something that was meant to believed, it would have been posted by somebody with more credibility in the organization who actually has something to lose by lying. That person is literally anyone except for Musk.
It's really hard for me to believe that a uniform 600 tweets read per _day_ limit for almost _all_ accounts is the best tool they have to mitigate a scraping attack. They likely have great insight into the risk profiles of each account based on age, size, past engagement. This is an incredibly coarse banhammer -- very close to just turning off the servers, IMO. Reasonable if it lasted for an hour, debatable if it lasts for a day, idiotic if it lasts longer.
Would love to see the inside story, hopefully it gets leaked/reported at some point.
absolutely insane. indictment on the engineers for lack of creativity.
Twitter has been completely inaccessible on my android app all day. I unknowingly used up my rate limit in my bed this morning. There has to be some other motive- possibly related to France protests. Macron announced that social media was to blame
Musk rate-limiting reading (and not posting) on Twitter worldwide because of localised protests in a single country? You must be joking; this makes no sense at all.
> Lest anyone doubt that Twitter was idiotic enough to release code that would cause a race condition and result in its own users executing a DDOS attack on it, here's the network console readout from Firefox showing all the network requests blasting away.
That's great, so just leaving a tab open in the background to Twitter will help bring down Twitter. Let me for the first time ever, voluntarily go to Twitter's website
Edit: looks like they fixed that issue with a login screen and no 10 requests per second issue. rats
