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yes, because you haven't provided any evidence for these "mindless" consumers so i'm not going to try and debate that point (besides calling apple customers mindless and then saying thats why they have 3 trillion dollar market cap is nearing troll territory)

my point is:

if i (mindlessly perhaps?) concede the point that those consumers are mindlessly spending money on useless things... then so what? its their money, let them do what they want with it. why make value judgments?




because we aren't talking about candy here. we are talking about purchases that are hundreds or thousands of dollars. and people are normalizing making these purchases yearly. sure if you're dumb and rich go ahead buy what you want. but the culture pushes this mindset on people who cant afford it as well.

unless you have the money to blow, then having critical thinking is an important skill. to ask yourself "is this a waste of money?", "should I really be buying one of these every year?"


>we are talking about purchases that are hundreds or thousands of dollars

...with their own money. For items they see a use for. What they consider to be worth it.

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>to ask yourself "is this a waste of money?", "should I really be buying one of these every year?"

"Hm, is this worth it to me? Yes." There you go.

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I agree every year is a bit much, but I'm not trying to stop people from spending their money in way they find useful. It's not my money. I'm ok with that.


  > but the culture pushes this mindset on people who cant afford it as well.
so the problem is with consumerism isn't it?


at the moment the problem is with you.


there's no actual need to be an ass. If you're unable to have a discussion, don't comment.


follow your own advice




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