I can't believe anyone would buy cloud encumbered IoT or many of the things people do today in modern society where they pick convenience and/or instant gratification over all else

Amazon and other Tech companies are Huge because they provide people what they desire instantly with no friction.

Why setup a HA instance and learn to manage things yourself when you can just outsource it

You can't believe people buy the cheaper options both in price and time investment?

I believe it, because I see it. I don't understand people trading freedom for saving a few bucks, though. It seems the height of idiocy to me.

It's because most people don't consider it to be "trading freedom." If the thing breaks you replace it.

But people actually do want the kinds of features enabled by IoT devices on top of cloud infrastructure and they're reasonably priced. It's not idiocy, it's utility.

And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back.

I consider it idiocy because you can have the same utility without putting control of your home into someone else's hands.

> And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back.

Of course. It's absolutely no skin off my back. I'm just expressing that I don't understand why people choose to do this. It's also true that I don't need to understand! But I am curious.

the answer to all of those are yes. it's the reason why you should not put all your eggs in on basket.

especially the case for google. ex, with their anti adblock movement in youtube, there's a small chance you might find yourself locked from your emails, GCP, Drive and every other service if they decide to be more aggressive about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36747367

although it is unethical for Amazon to do this etc. and obviously I am the last person to argue for people needing to be smart about things but probably it would make sense not to have business services associated with personal services, also for tax purposes etc.

Yep same case. He's not a quick learner, is he.

Same reaction, only I thought of Amazon not learning. Gotta be a non-zero chance this person is loving going back to the publicity well.

But yeah all of it is speculation really, right? There's no facts here you'd bet large sums on being as described - yet it's entirely possible some are too. Who knows?

And that's why we have laws and courts to deal with bad behavior.