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The question to ask is "how many kids graduate high school vs. how many should".

Turns out the answer is interesting - about 50 years ago, the graduation rate for high school was around 50%. These days it's much higher (90% or more in some areas).

Does this mean the children is learning? Perhaps.

It also may represent a failure of our systems - in the past, not everyone needed a high school degree to be a functional member of society, and forcing those people to "graduate" may in fact be a net loss to society.

In other countries, this is explicit: people are tracked to "educational" vs. "vocational" career tracks earlier, and there is not the emphasis on graduation rates as a metric.



> Does this mean the children is learning? Perhaps.

Kids also drink less alcohol, commit less crime, get teenage pregnant less often. So yeah, they are likely to be learning more then in 1970.


It is amazing how many people complain about "kids these days" while every measurable statistics shows that their generstion was much worse.


> It is amazing how many people complain about "kids these days" while every measurable statistics shows that their generstion was much worse.

> drink less alcohol, commit less crime, get teenage pregnant less often

Stats lie.

Their doctors give them drugs way more fun than alcohol, all of their crimes are unattributable to them because they're being committed in a virtual world where there is no accountability (it's not the Boomers SWATing each other, DDoSing anything that disagrees with them, and running fraudulent crowdfunding grifts), and the decline in teenage pregnancy has more to do with the entire demographic's sexual interests being fine-tuned to bespoke pornography and/or their own reflections.

Number of school shootings only ever increases, and an entire generation claims to be mentally ill. Something is wrong here.


> Number of school shootings only ever increases

Wow, so when kids get shot, it's their fault too? Holy cow, this is like the definition of victim blaming.. Why do you hate the younger generation?


What? It's their own generation doing the shootings.

The guy you replied to said a million other stupid things and you picked the only accurate one to complain about.


Overall violence committed by kids went down. Simple as that.

Pluuus it was kids who then protested and lobbied against legalized guns. Aaand it was his generation who called them crisis actors and bullied then. And bullied parents of dead kids.


> it's not the Boomers SWATing each other,

In here, I would point out that SWATing is a thing solely and absolutely because adult cops behave over the top aggressively. SWATing is not a thing in countries with less aggression and violence prone police. Not because their teenagers would be overall better, but because their police forces are harder to be used.


>50 years ago...50% graduation rate

cite? This seems to be saying the graduation rate was between 80 and 85% back in 1972: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/are-americas-rising-high-...


A 50% graduation rate for US secondary education had been attained by the 1947-48 school year, which is now 75 years ago. By 50 years ago (1972-73), the actual rate was 75%, among 17 year olds. (Note that some normal-schedule students would be graduating at age 18, and other statistics look at graduation or G.E.D. equivalent at later ages, e.g., 19 or 20.)

That said, yes, there was a dramatic increase in attendance and graduation from ~1900, when the graduation rate was about 6%.

US Department of Education, 120 Years of American Education: A Statistical Portrait, p 55, "Table 18 --- High school graduates, by sex and control of institution: 1869--70 to 1991--92"

<https://books.googleusercontent.com/books/content?req=AKW5Qa...> (PDF)


A hundred years ago graduating high school was rare. My grandfather made it all the way to 6th grade before he had to start working. And if you look at what a high school graduate applying to one of the Ivies was expected to know a century ago, it was considerably closer to today's bachelor's degree than today's high school diploma.

Primary and secondary educational standards have dropped precipitously in the USA.


> Does this mean the children is learning?

<Captain America pointing> I understood that reference.




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