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The laying of cables is the same: it's single-mode fibre with a PON architecture. Once you have that possible future speeds are 'infinite' with end-point upgrades.

I'm asking: why even get the 25Gig service over the 10Gig? What are you doing with a 25G down/uplink that you cannot accomplish with 10G?



If the price is under $70 for 25G, I'd imagine most people pay half that for less bandwidth, but the 25G works for a number of people who need or want it, plus is great marketing. Also selling 25G that's underutilized is probably substantially cheaper.


Init7 charges the same for 10gibt or 25gbit[1]. Just setup costs and HW are more.

The 1gibt service they have now is cheaper and intended for "regular users". It's now CGNAT and comes with a per-configured router. [2]

[1] https://www.init7.net/en/internet/fiber7/

[2] https://www.init7.net/en/internet/easy7/


> It's now CGNAT

CGNAT? As in: The provider walls in customers behind a NAT - and customers can't forward their own IPv4 ports? That CGNAT?

Asking because that seems like a cruel restriction on 25Gbps upload.


Only the cheap 1 gibt connection and it's very clearly stated.


I get it's stated. It still seems awful. It's like owning a euro performance car in an area with exclusively straight roads. I mean yeah, you can go fast but that's it. Most of the fun can't happen.


> but the 25G works for a number of people who need or want it

Yes. But I'm asking: what is the need for it?

If you want and are willing to spend the money go ahead. But I'm asking for the use-case.


> But I'm asking for the use-case.

I used my symmetrical upload for work. I'd copy virtual machines home to fix and then copy them back. I hosted VMs that I used as a template. I'd host huge ISOs so I didn't have to carry install DVDs with me.

Past that, it's pretty sweet to be able to access every bit of my home network as if I were there.

But then I moved to an area with one internet option, a cable ISP. I now drive a LOT more than I used to.


> But I'm asking for the use-case.

Ever transfer a file more than a few hundred gigs? This makes that take less time. Even if I’m only pulling down files at 1800 mbps Ive got plenty of headroom for everything else.


It's not PON thats why they are able to provide 25 Gbit/s. And they choose 25 Gbit/s because the switches for it where only slightly more expensive than the 10 Gbit/s version would have been. They did a talk about it some time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmJCzMeIBo


25 Gb/s is available with PON now (>2021). See IEEE Std 802.3ca-2020, 25GS-PON/G.9804.


True but the "state owned ISP" in Switzerland only has XGS-PON hardware. So Init7 could only provide 25Gbit/s in the parts of the network thats not PON.




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