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> There is NOTHING preventing small SUVs that hold 5 people and cargo, get really good mileage, and are cheap(ish) - but they don't exist used because they don't exist new.

How much cargo you want? I think the mid-size sector favorites (CR-V, RAV4, etc.) come pretty close to this, especially if you are willing to use a cargo box.



The RAV4 looks big to me (almost minivan sized?) - but I see it's shorter than the Camry at least.

I'm thinking of something more akin to the old hatchbacks, but that may be getting close.

(Comparing the RAV4 to the Camry really shows the Camry's weaknesses, it's a bigger car with less room).


Both are IIUC substantially smaller than the typical minivan, and the recent CR-V redesign especially looks bigger than it is. Honda also has the HR-V, which is a smaller crossover thing with much stronger classic hatchback vibes; not sure if Toyota sells anything similar.




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