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I wouldn't call the city asking for the writer to agree to a warrantless search "acting in very good faith".



A warrant is only required for a police search. You can agree to have anyone search your property as a resolution to any legal agreement if you want to.


A warrant is required for all government search, and I can just as easily waive my right for a warrant w/ the police.

In fact, a workers for the municipality is the very last government level Id want snooping in my house. Next thing I know Im getting fined for having the wrong colored bathroom tiles.


> A warrant is required for all government search,

False. (As, also, is the upthread claim that "A warrant is only required for a police search")

Reasonableness is required for all government search, warrants are usually (but not categorically, there are all kinds of established exceptions to the warrant requirement) required for reasonableness.


> A warrant is required for all government search

This is not at all true.

For example, if you enter into an agreement with your state to be a foster parent, you also have to agree for the state to inspect your home regularly. It's part of the agreement - no warrant required.

The state is free to make search a condition of an agreement. So if the state wants to say "Agree to a search or we will pursue criminal proceedings", you are free to accept or deny their agreement.


Agreeing to a search as part of access to a nonessential service is quite different from being extorted with the thread of criminal proceedings if you don't allow them to violate your rights.


I think this point is needlessly pedantic because it hasn’t much to do with the topic at hand. GP’s point was that you were wrong to say that warrants are _only_ required for police searches.

The search we’re talking about here is very much the kind of search that warrants a warrant.


At least in the state of Washington, only police officers are authorized to execute warrants. So I don't feel like I am being pedantic. If you are saying it requires a warrant, it's officially a police search.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills in this thread and no one has an idea of what a warrant actually is and they are just throwing it around like a magic word.




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