Mozilla, the legally registered non-profit foundation with a mission statement[0], for sure is more trustworthy than a for-profit data behemoth whose sole revenue comes from collecting as much data a possible, or a for-profit tech company with a history of corporate abuse and user hostile behavior.

[0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

That's the Mozilla Foundation, the Mozilla Corporation is the for-profit developer of Firefox that's owned by the Foundation. If Mozilla never established the Corporation I'd give them more slack, but from a "it's nonprofit" perspective it's on the same level as IKEA, which is also owned by a nonprofit foundation.

Funny that I trust the Mozilla Corporation more than I trust the Mozilla Foundation.

"Non-profits" are still just as motivated to increase revenue as "for-profits".

Most US hospitals are non-profits but you still see people complaining about them.

Technically, google doesn't sell people's data. It uses data to train AIs to predict people's behaviour, modify that behaviour, modify attitudes/beliefs (it's an ad company), and eventually replace people

Thanks, I updated my original post because how they profit from the data is immaterial to the fact that they want it and they coax people into letting them collect it.

Doesn't that more general statement now apply to anyone that collects telemetry, even for "noble" purposes, like Mozilla?

Yes, opt-in by default telemetry is unethical.

It sells a direct derivative of the data though, which is targeted ads.

I'm not trying to be a contrarian, but Google paid Firefox lots of money to force Google as the default search. Likely an offer they would refuse at their own peril, but I really liked how my search engine settings persisted when I reinstalled. Now it defaults to google.

There's also a ton of promoted garbage on your homepage and privacy switches that need to be toggled off by default. Those settings don't carry-over when you sync your account settings.

I still prefer Firefox, but they are not immune to the encroaching enshittification.

I agree they're not immune whatsoever. In fact I hold them to a higher standard than the others because it's their mission to do it, so their failures sting much harder.

But I hold the others to zero standard. There is less than zero trust there. I expect to be abused by them because their mandate requires them to ignore my wishes. It's not a failure but a success to them.

There was the “thoroughly pizzled” pocket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofac

on the other hand Microsoft and Facebook are doing this all the time.

Did they remove public perception or did you quote something they didn't say?