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Yep. Another perk is that Google always seems to lease the best/coolest office real estate anywhere.

Most of my time here I feel vaguely gross about how nice everything is.




My friend/coworker made the observation: Elysium. (the movie)

Always felt kind of gross to me.


The Dublin office was nice (we were a contracting firm for them, had a meeting there).

https://www.google.com/search?q=google+dublin&oq=google+dubl...


Not a googler, but their office in Toronto is in pretty meh area tbh


Do they have a dev office in Toronto? Thought it was in waterloo


In the past it was sales&marketing only with smattering of a few "guest desks" for visiting engineers. And the site leads at Waterloo (at least) lobbied hard to prevent Toronto from ever really having engineering for real. Probably out of worry about centre of gravity being sucked away, etc.

IMHO it limited Google's hiring ability in Ontario. And it made me (and others) have to sell my house in Toronto and move when my employer was acquired. I tried the van/bus commute for 6 months and it was too hard.

Then the Geoffrey Hinton folks moved in there I believe. And I think some AI R&D was happening there?

And then COVID happened, and everyone was WFH but when you did go into the office and book a desk, it became possible to go into the Toronto office instead.

I left after that so can't say how it is now. Google goes through waves of "defrags" where small groups and teams in peripheral offices are... purged and merged because there's a feeling that "strength in numbers" for a particular project pays off. I wouldn't be surprised to see what happen post-layoffs.

The Toronto office, when I visited it, was small. Food was good though.


Don't work for Google, but been to the Toronto office (it is on the smaller side).

It is in the heart of the Toronto downtown, near Richmond & Spadina, next to the old & new City Hall. Definitely disagree with GP, I'm not sure what better area you would pick (but I love downtown). Similarly in Taipei, the Google office is right in Taipei 101 (like having an office in CN Tower - very cool.)

To be fair, Amazon's office in Toronto is next to the CN Tower and has a great view of it - so maybe Amazon takes the cake here. You have to pay for the cake though.


> It is in the heart of the Toronto downtown, near Richmond & Spadina

No, it's Richmond and University or Richmond and Bay. It's basically in financial district which is as boring and corporate as it comes. My point was to the GP saying "Google always seems to lease the best/coolest office real estate"


> Most of my time here I feel vaguely gross about how nice everything is.

Tell me more about this.


It just feels like none of this is sustainable. There's too much fat.

I feel big tech in general is looting its brands for profit, that while it's not 100% obvious yet, we're in the decline phase.


Since big tech has such high margins and relatively few employees, it's sustainable for as long as the company wants to keep doing it.


My girlfriend works for Google. I just moved to the Bay Area and I can definitely relate. She gives me tours of the Mountain View headquarters (and the campus) quite often and I just feel... it's too tranquil... it's too nice... it's too serene and it's just such a privilege to be here. The atmosphere is calm, the location is on beautiful rolling hills of California, the food is fantastic, there is a strong focus on biking/walking/community. Just lovely.


Meta also has exceptional offices.

Both are amazing.


> best/coolest office real estate anywhere

Hence the focus on RTO.


In reality they were out of room at many of their offices pre-COVID, and they hired like crazy during COVID, and had no room for everyone to RTO.

Before I quit you had to book a desk if you wanted to come into the office, hybrid. I pushed to get myself my own assigned desk because I despised the stock monitors, etc.

At that point (fall 2021) hardly anybody was coming in, so it was a ghost town. But they would not have been able to fit everyone in if they'd demanded people come back.


Sigh




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