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If it wasn't clear, this is actually a real thing. See e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familial_natural_short_sleep (of course whether it would actually be possible to just pick this up via gene therapy is untested, and I think gene therapies are hard in the brain because of the blood-brain barrier). One of my roommates in college had this and was able to get by fine with 5 hours of sleep a night, I was always envious.


"Various famous/historical individuals have been known to sleep for 4 hours or less across human history, these include:[75][76][12][77][78][79]

* Barack Obama

* Donald Trump

* Thomas Alva Edison

* Mozart

* Martha Stewart

* Elon Musk

* Jim Cramer

* Margaret Thatcher

* Nikola Tesla

* Tom Ford

* Kelly Ripa"

LMAO what a list!


I wonder how many in that list are individuals with the gene anomaly mentioned in the article, and how many simply perpetuate the "successful people work more and sleep less" meme.

And how many are just straight up lying to trump up their public image. A few names come to mind.


I see what you did there.

Also how many operate(d) far below their peak capacity due to sleep deprivation, and/or caused themselves other mental illnesses.


Or how many of them don't function as well as they think they do and would really benefit from a healthier lifestyle.


Or how many of them are just enjoying a steady supply of stimulant meds without having to show the prescription for them.


Trump’s doctor prescribed him adderall and probably testosterone while Elon musk is known for taking ambien with wine and fat reducing shots.

That’s just the public stuff. Bill Gates is getting weekly IV’s of fluids and vitamins (see his Netflix special). It would be naive to assume these people aren’t taking everything under the sun while being closely monitored for side effects in order to stay productive and monitor their vast empires.


Tell me more about these fat reducing shots, please :-)

As for ambien with wine, jeez that sounds like what one would use as an excuse in court, or a setup for a horror story. "I wasn't myself judge, I took ambien and had a glass of wine"

I wonder how much of this is real and how much Internet rumour.


literally https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=elon+musk...

some people's laziness is quite hard to grok


Are there any details what Bill Gates takes in the weekly IV fluids?


> Trump’s doctor prescribed him adderall

Are there any sources that confirm this?


You know what, I thought I remember hearing about it when they raided his doctor's office but now it seems like it's actually unfounded.

I normally try to avoid spreading rumors so here's a source on the other two claims:

Elon Musk's strange ambien tweet: https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/elon-musks-strange-s...

For the Bill Gates claim, there was a scene in that documentary he made where he goes off into a nurse's office to get IV fluids and it's like a weekly thing he mentions, I'd have to rewatch it to find the exact spot where that happens: https://www.netflix.com/title/80184771


There are days where I would have burned the world if had had $10 billion and refused to take a nap.


> And how many are just straight up lying to trump up their public image. A few names come to mind.

Considering how often some of those individuals trump up manic tweets at 3 in the morning, the answer might surprise you!


This is self reported probably and I call BS. There’s a weird version of machismo in bragging that you don’t need sleep. To me it’s, like the people who say they work 80 hours a week. What I think those people mean is that they’re at work 80 hours a week.




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