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previously: science fiction author Peter Watts' 2009 post musing about spider intelligence vs Turing machines:

https://rifters.com/real/2009/01/iterating-towards-bethlehem...

> Here's the thumbnail sketch: we have here a spider who eats other spiders, who changes her foraging strategy on the fly, who resorts to trial and error techniques to lure prey into range. She will brave a full frontal assault against prey carrying an egg sac, but sneak up upon an unencumbered target of the same species. Many insects and arachnids are known for fairly complex behaviors (bumblebees are the proletarian's archetype; Sphex wasps are the cool grad-school example), but those behaviors are hardwired and inflexible. Portia here is not so rote: Portia improvises.

> But it's not just this flexible behavioral repertoire that's so amazing. It's not the fact that somehow, this dumb little spider with its crude compound optics has visual acuity to rival a cat's (even though a cat's got orders of magnitude more neurons in one retina than our spider has in her whole damn head). It's not even the fact that this little beast can figure out a maze which entails recognizing prey, then figuring out an approach path along which that prey is not visible (i.e., the spider can't just keep her eyes on the ball: she has to develop and remember a search image), then follow her best-laid plans by memory including recognizing when she's made a wrong turn and retracing her steps, all the while out of sight of her target. No, the really amazing thing is how she does all this with a measly 600,000 neurons— how she pulls off cognitive feats that would challenge a mammal with seventy million or more.

> She does it like a Turing Machine, one laborious step at a time. She does it like a Sinclair ZX-80: running one part of the system then another, because she doesn't have the circuitry to run both at once. She does it all sequentially, by timesharing.

If you like this kind of thing, check out Watts' novel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)



Also see Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky for more smart-spider science fiction


I also immediately think of this book. Also the main character of the jumping spider species in the book is called Portia, likely refer to the same species in the article.


Yep, origin of the name.


It keeps getting recommended on HN - should there be a book club?


Can we get that sweet VC cash for it?


I mean, we're nerds and it's a good sci-fi book.


Do checkout Blindsight because is great, but the Portia reference is actually from the sequel Echopraxia (a good book, but inferior to Blindsight; I mostly remember it for the Portia reference).


Blindsight. One of the most interesting sci-fi stories I found impossible to get into and enjoy due to the author's dense and obtuse prose. I have a squirrel brain, so maybe it's just me.

I just wish one day someone will be able to turn it in a video game or a movie so I can understand how alien those aliens really are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkR2hnXR0SM

This is notably also adored by Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW7_1J9clAA

In case you want to fall down into the rabbit hole then https://blindsight.space

Now I just wish that some serious producer like Nolan would get a hint.


It is very much a preference thing. I do like Watt's prose quite a bit.


> Echopraxia (a good book, but inferior to Blindsight

It's been half-read on my nightstand for months now because it just didn't interest me very much halfway through. Yet I read the first one twice.


> Blindsight

> It carries a crew of five cutting-edge transhuman hyper-specialists, of whom one is a genetically reincarnated vampire who acts as the nominal mission commander.

Space vampire eh?


Yes. Yet it is diamond-hard sci-fi.




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