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> Unless this user has never used a device running something other than iOS, they've already dealt with this

Right, and they hate it. There's a reason why the iPhone and App Store were such a massive hit. People will choose convenience and security over freedom most of the time.



People also willingly get addicted by TikTok. Sometimes the masses need a little help.

And before you argue against this, Apple fans use the exact same argument: Apple knows best, we don't want to think for ourselves.


Apple gave the masses help.

You seem to be ignoring this fact and blindly arguing that the Mac/Windows world of installing apps is superior.

Which many of us disagree with.


The only way to help the masses is your way?

Apple helped the masses, and the masses reward Apple by being the most valuable user base in the world

https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/06/iphone-users-spend-apps/


> The only way to help the masses is your way?

That's what Apple thinks, yes.

> Apple helped the masses, and the masses reward Apple by being the most valuable user base in the world

Yes, rich people buy (perceived) luxury products. Apple's greatest skill is positioning itself as a luxury product.


I hesitate to respond because the idea that Apple is a 3T marketing firm is moronic

Let’s not pretend Apple isn’t building the best consumer silicon in the world and the most secure and user-friendly consumer operating systems in the world. That’s not even considering their supply chain innovations.

Apple devices are superior to their competition in just about every objective measure.


Apple gained popularity long, long before they started developing their own silicon. Sure, they're doing nice things with their vast fortunes, but let's not pretend that's why they're perceived as a luxury product. It's all in the marketing.


You might want to let Jonny Ive know his design org never made a difference lol

Apple was in shambles before the iPod/iPhone. You think the iPhone succeeded because of marketing? You don’t think the fact that they made multi-touch displays easy to use was relevant to their success?

Apple products are so desired that people get resentful when they can’t afford them. Then they post moronic takes on HN from their Samsungs


Nice personal attack, buddyboy. Go touch some grass.


> Apple devices are superior to their competition in just about every objective measure.

Their vehement success in Xserve proved that Apple does so well in low-margin markets. Wait a minute...


I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.


Right, and they hate it.

Citation needed. People hate that they can buy games from Steam rather than having to go through the Windows app store?

People will choose convenience and security over freedom most of the time.

And if that's their choice, fine. But it should actually be a choice.


Let’s be real most people don’t give a shit (unless they’re into emulators apparently), this is really about companies trying to slice up the pie between them.




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