This. It wasn’t Cisco. Far crappier vendor! I don’t want to name names but they had a few high profile incidents that suggested their software was written by idiots. There was a panic move by the security people to switch away and still tick the box but they didn’t really understand the billing and architectural models of AWS.

Pricing was around 75k for 1000 seats for a year. They thought it was going to be $25k a year but it turned out to be that a month.